Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to all the witnesses. We're certainly learning a lot here.
Ms. Minshall, you mentioned this a bit in your brief, and others have touched on it. A couple of days ago we had the City of Calgary here, and they were really explicit about one possible solution—making conservation part of urban infrastructure funding. That way, we could leverage the tripartite funding that's out there and include conservation projects in it and recognize that urban conservation could be considered infrastructure in our municipalities.
Has the City of Winnipeg found that to be something lacking, or do you think that is something that would work to help secure urban space or to secure funding for urban projects?
I’ll ask Mr. Penner, from the City of Winnipeg.