Evidence of meeting #53 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was regulatory.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Meinhard Doelle  Professor, Dalhousie University, As an Individual
Brenda Kenny  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Energy Pipeline Association
Elizabeth Swanson  Chair, Regulatory Policy Work Group, Associate General Counsel, TransCanada PipeLines, Canadian Energy Pipeline Association
Bob Hamilton  Deputy Minister, Department of the Environment
Alan Latourelle  Chief Executive Officer, Parks Canada

5:05 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I want to thank all of you—minister, ladies and gentlemen—for being here today.

Minister, regarding the $50 million the industry has promised for reducing the negative effects of oil sand production, has the agreement been signed?

5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

We have full agreement with the industry.

We are now generating—

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

So the agreement has been signed.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

It's not something that will require a signature. Basically what it will require is the modality for the payment by the industry to the Government of Canada, Environment Canada, and the Government of Alberta for the science, as it's installed.

But we have already—

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Have you concluded a written agreement? You say that you have not signed it, but that there is a written agreement. You must be familiar with the details of the agreement, right?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

We have the details of the agreement, certainly. There will be a formal agreement—

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Are the details public?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

Absolutely. We've discussed them. We announced them in February of this year. The $50 million a year is calculated specifically on the design and the implementation over three years.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

How much of that $50 million will be paid by the industry? Is it $50 million?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

All of the $50 million.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Okay.

How much of that $50 million has been invested so far?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

Our investment to date, and we were talking about that this morning, is somewhere around $20 million. Those funds have not yet been transferred from the industry, but that has been invested in installation.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

What amount did you say was paid by the industry?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

They will pay all of the $50 million a year.

In terms of implementing and installing monitoring facilities and preparation for installation—

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

All that will be made public anyway. We will be able to find the information.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

The amount is about $20 million.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Okay, thanks.

A conference will be held in Doha, Qatar, from November 26 until December. Will you be attending, minister?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

Yes, I will.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

What is the budget for the Canadian delegation? Has a budget been allocated for that purpose?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

There is a budget. I don't have the hard numbers. It is significantly less than last year.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

How many people will be able to go to Doha this year?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

It depends on the numbers involving the provinces. There will be provincial delegations. I believe the provincial delegations, in a number of cases, are larger—

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

Will any members of the opposition be invited to attend?

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

Peter Kent Conservative Thornhill, ON

To be a part of the official Canadian delegation, no, but as was done last year with representatives from the NDP and the Green Party, we will assist in enabling their accreditation to be present at the conference.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

François Choquette NDP Drummond, QC

But that's not official. Our attendance is not official.