Ms. Woodley, regarding the boreal forest, I think it's important to put some numbers around this. This is not a panel about the oil sands, but the oil sands seem to come up over and over again. The area of the oil sands is about 147,000 square kilometres in Canada. To date, between 600 and 700 square kilometres have been mined, which is a very small portion of the oil sands, and of that 600 to 700 square kilometres, about 60 have been reclaimed. So it's an ongoing process of mining and reclamation, leaving aside the quality of the reclaimed land that I would argue does have a sound ecological function built in—but we'll leave that aside for a minute.
If one looks at hydroelectric development in the boreal forest, for example, in Quebec 23,000 square kilometres of boreal forest land has been flooded. In Manitoba, where I come from, it is 8,000 square kilometres, and in Ontario it's about 7,000 square kilometres. Keep in mind that the northern boreal forest that's flooded by hydro development will never, ever be reclaimed to anything near its natural state, whereas in the oil sands it's a very minuscule area that has been mined, and it's a constant process of reclamation.
Don't you think that in terms of Canada's overall boreal forest, which I think is 10 million square kilometres, the oil sands area, from a nationwide perspective, is very, very small?