So then you're not here today suggesting that the legislation is perfect.
Mrs. Barrett, I actually had a couple of questions for regarding some comments you made on landowners. You had talked about how landowners who are conservationists tending to do the right thing.
How do we get them there? How do we win the hearts and minds of landowners? Is that through education? Is that through regulation? Do you have an opinion on the best way to get them there? I ask because I agree with you. The landowner who practises conservation because he or she believes in it is going to be the person who does it all the time whether the government's watching or not.