I know Mr. Chorney has some concerns about that particular program, as do those of us who own land. Nevertheless, it's an example of the federal government basically putting its dollars down and generating some significant results.
Ms. Barrett, you talked about the role of government in terms of prescriptive programming. But government programming can either be incentive-based or regulation-based. Given that you work mostly on a privately owned landscape with the conservation agencies that you represent, which of the two do you prefer, the regulatory or the incentive approach?