Okay, so maybe there are some incentives for partnerships. Obviously, you don't have the same types of organizations in every situation, but you need something to bring all the partners together, and land use planning does that.
This is for my information, because I didn't catch your presentation, Mr. Scarth, and I'm very interested in this alternative land use services program.
I was introduced to a model in Australia in the middle of the last decade. I'm not sure if it was in Victoria or New South Wales, but it was about incentives for conservation and ecological functioning. It was science-based, but it was not about giving money if groups did conservation. It was about the model or algorithm for quantifying ecological net benefit on the landscape based on the quantification of soil, water, fauna and flora measures.
Then the landowner would make a bid. We can improve these factors by x amount for $100 a hectare, and whoever could do the most with the least money would get the money. It was a very interesting way and the opposite of the approach, “We'll give you money, and you'll do what you can”.
Are you familiar with that? I had some presentations on that, and the ministry experts felt they had cut their costs a lot and created a lot more ecological value. Is that how yours works?