I like some of the things that have been said here. One is that the focus should be less on the monetary incentives and more on incentives that allow companies or industries to focus on things along the lines of stewardship agreements and multi-stakeholder arrangements, such as the ones Pierre was referring to. In those you have science, industry, academia, and government coming together in a way that is able to produce an actual result on the ground. You focus the conversation more on the results as opposed to avoiding the litigation, as was earlier mentioned.
Some of the things within the forestry sector related to certification would dovetail well with those multi-stakeholder initiatives that can be easily supported or engaged in by government. So it's allowing the flexibility to focus on results as opposed to focusing on avoiding litigation.