It's an incentive-based program. I'll be very honest. We struggle with the program because it provides a level of compensation that exceeds any program we've delivered, and it's an ongoing form of compensation to the landowner for the societal good that's being derived from whatever change he has made to his management and land use. I would say that I would advocate for anything that encourages further conservation. I struggle with the funding model associated with the ALUS program.
On March 4th, 2014. See this statement in context.