Thank you, Chair.
I've been an auditor for 31 years now, so I've looked at this issue in many programs. We were quite pleased to see the extent to which these programs' results were being measured. So by and large this is a good-news story, I think. For each of the five programs they understand what's happening, what projects are being funded, the results, and how much habitat is being protected. So they have all the individual pieces of a results picture. It's really a matter of understanding better. For example, with the piping plover, there are 80 different projects across those five programs that are supporting it.
It's really about pulling all of this together. That's what's really important for us. That then allows Environment Canada to understand, for that roughly $73 million being spent each year, how close they are getting to what needs to be done to assist in implementing the recovery strategy, in this example, for the piping plover.