I'm afraid I'm not an expert on that, sir.
I do know that California is a world-leading area. California aims to reach 100% diversion by 2020, and it's well on its way.
I know that some countries in Europe have been notorious for doing a lot of incineration and are reforming themselves. For example, Denmark, a country I know a little bit about, used to be known as the world's incinerator champion. Last year, its minister of the environment, a lady called Ida Auken, declared that Denmark, having been the world's leader in incineration, has now seen the light and is going to switch from incineration to a recycling program. Sweden is following suit. Other countries in Europe are doing great jobs in recycling.
I read the testimony of your last meeting. A lady and a gentleman were interviewed. Information came forward from their testimony about the remarkable advances in technology that are taking place in Europe, which now, for example, allow automatic separation of different kinds of plastic. This is quite incredible.
The recycling industries promise tremendous growth in the economy. They promise tremendous numbers of jobs and a great move forward in the economy. It's a new industry that I firmly believe should be encouraged. I would love to see this committee, our country, and our provinces endorse and support this as a new and upcoming industry.