I'm reluctant to speak about measures that can be taken to mitigate the effects of incineration, because my thrust is that there should be no incineration. I would like to see whatever can be done to simply bring an end to incineration.
The reason why incineration still exists to this day—and it exists, as we know, in various parts of Europe as well—is that the people who promote incineration, the incinerator executives of the companies, do precisely what was done in the case of the witnesses I'm speaking about who appeared before your committee, that is, they present a story as if they put across the idea that incineration can be clean.
No one can expect the ladies and gentlemen of this committee and similar committees worldwide, all with the best of motives for promoting the environment and the health of a nation, to be experts on all the technologies they're confronted with. No one can expect anyone here in this room to have sat here and known that what was being said to them at the June 5 meeting that I'm referring to was not correct.
These people get away with it. They convince governments and decision-making bodies that what they have as a product is safe and clean, and this is false. My view is that what governments can do is promote the understanding that this is not a safe and clean technology.