It is a fair distinction, but I think the other part of it is the type of use of the land. For example, in the Rouge national urban park, a significant component is the land that we've agreed on and are working productively with the farmers. That, for example, would not be able to achieve the ecological integrity objective within that context, but we can demonstrate environmental leadership by working collaboratively with them.
On October 27th, 2014. See this statement in context.