Can anybody actually measure success on these matters? Because it would be nice to get the farmers who probably are.... There is a certain percentage of farmers who are quite willing to take land out of production—certainly marginal land—but then there are others who simply won't. The problem if they simply won't means that you folks in Manitoba get flooded. I'm being simplistic, and I get that. However, if you look at it over the generation of time, we can't keep on doing what we're doing.
Where does the softer voluntary approach end and you then do a mix of some sort of incentives, or carrots and stick? You're telling me that the U.S. and the European Union have that. Is that a recommendation to this committee?