That's a fair comment.
In my early years as a biologist, one of the things I worked on was the Mackenzie Valley pipeline assessment. That underwent 25 years of process, and nothing happened.
Mr. Bloomer and Mr. Abel, you talked about people in community. Mr. Bloomer, could you talk about the positive impact that pipelines have on various industries, for example, steel? What's going to happen to the people who want to take up welding and are depending on pipeline jobs? What will be the effect on the trades, on good union jobs, on communities?
What does your statement that it's highly unlikely the pipelines will ever be built mean in terms of people and communities?