That's important, in the sense that people understand when you're looking at numbers and where you can apply.
It's interesting you mentioned the municipalities. The big city guys—I was vice-president of Alberta municipalities association—are getting to be a stronger and stronger voice and work closely together. To have them at the table...I know you're working with the provinces, but the major cities in this country are beginning to have a strong voice, and probably some movement, as you identified. I hope the municipalities...I know FCM's there. That group out there, as an entity on its own, needs to be part of this discussion.