To get to the political element of this, I believe it's much easier to sell Canadians on the idea of Canada doing its part internationally by transferring its best expertise abroad and getting a bigger bang for the buck than we would in Canada. It's a much easier sell to Canadians than a carbon tax, which we know has to be in the hundreds, if not thousands, to actually be effective.
That takes political will, and I'm not sure you'll get the political will to do that kind of taxation.
Ms. Maciunas, thanks for talking about trade. That's an area that I lived for four and a half years.
I want to talk to you about the environmental goods agreement that was negotiated some time ago. It started in 2014 and sort of petered out in 2016. It includes China, which effectively has a veto power, because it is all about consensus.
To what do you attribute the current malaise, or perhaps even failure of that agreement?