But we have the Shell experience in Athabasca, which I witnessed first-hand. Those opportunities do exist.
The other thing that I find overall in terms of the broader sustainable development agenda is that it's not just hard technologies. It's the services and the expertise that we can bring as well. I think that's where particularly Canada from the solar side and from the wind side, the renewable side, small hydro.... My God, the expertise that we've had on hydro over the years with Hydro Quebec, Manitoba, BC Hydro, etc., is enormous.
There's too parochial a vison of this whole renewable grid that we have and we haven't really thought about how we translate that into international opportunities. That's another area I would identify.