Just with regard to the question from the member in terms of increasing the intensity of effort, there obviously has been ongoing dialogue in terms of the establishment of that particular MPA, and part of the dialogue is related to not only the question of intensity of effort but also the benefits of marine protected areas and the potential for spillover effect for a particular species.
I know that DFO staff have had those conversations with all of their fleets, and it's an ongoing part of the establishment of the MPA. As Kevin said, it's an important consideration and the industry makes an important contribution to MPA planning as well as to the design of it. One of the emerging areas in terms of MPA research is that of the benefit of the spillover effect, and that's been part of the dialogue on the establishment of St. Anns Bank, for example.