It's interesting. There's one other thing. I have a minute, but I won't take the whole minute. There was one other really interesting one that I heard about. My aunt proposed something like this in Barrie, but I think she wanted me to do it and not her, which always makes a good aunt.
In Sweden, they have entire malls of things basically going to landfills and they take out everything that's usable. Artisans, colleges, and everybody work together and then they have the finished products. There are entire malls doing this—