I'm referring to the carbon tax. My point is that we've done all this without intervention, incentives or being taxed by government to do the behaviour. This is the economics of growing crops. There's no money in emitting carbon. There's a natural economics at play there to drive our cropping in this direction.
I'm just speaking quite frankly from farmers.... There are two ways of getting at incenting behaviour. Right now, our track record is good. Our future looks bright. You can use a tax or you can use incentives. You can use either the carrot which are incentives, or the stick which is the tax.
At the end of the day, we're looking at what behaviour needs to be changed here. With regard to the carbon tax, what we're saying is that it can work, but if it's implemented, what we really have to watch for is to make sure that our farmers are not rendered uncompetitive in the international market.
Can it be done? Probably by smarter people than me, but at the same time, we need to make sure that our growers are not taxed, because there are no other carbon taxes in the world in which we compete. Our first and foremost ask is to make sure that whatever happens going forward on climate change farmers are not rendered uncompetitive in the global market, because 90% of what we grow is exported.