Right. My view is that carbon pricing is pretty much a wash for the economy overall. It's not going to make us a lot bigger and it's not going to make us a lot smaller. I think it will increase the growth in cleaner sectors in the economy and reduce it in less clean sectors of the economy, but for the economy as a whole and for workers as a whole, it will be a wash.
On January 28th, 2019. See this statement in context.