As I think you know, Mr. Shipley was mentioning earlier how we tend to talk about the costs versus the actual emissions and what the reduction in emissions will be. Carbon pricing isn't going to reduce the emissions to where we need them to be for us to meet our Paris accord targets, although we have a number of initiatives under the pan-Canadian framework that, added up, should get us to our Paris accord targets. We're not quite there yet. I think we still had 66 megatonnes to go before Ontario pulled out of the cap and trade. I think we still have some work to do there. That is the understanding. I don't think anybody believed that carbon pricing is going to get us to reducing emissions to the extent that we need to in order to achieve our Paris accord targets.
It really is a combination of a number of things. Isn't that true?