On the land front, I think this idea of needing a council that really is responsible for this and drives it, led by the federal government, is critical. We are optimistic about the commitments that have been made. There are good commitments in the mandate letters, and there is a great commitment that came out of the U.S.-Canada statement that talks about going substantially beyond the targets. Now we need to put in place a process that brings everyone together to create the road map to get there. That is doable.
I would note that we also have to focus on the long-term goal of conserving nature, with these targets as a step forward. That is always what they've intended to be under the CBD and that's how we need to consider them. There are steps. We need to put the structures in and get the plan in place to get there. At the same time, I agree with Mr. Lounds that we need to be completing the things that are already in play on the ground by all jurisdictions and continue that work.