I believe I heard Mr. Valiante mention the highly integrated nature of both the oil production and plastic production sectors. That implies a conflict of interest if we're looking at reducing the usage of plastic.
Is that how you gentlemen see that? Obviously, a company that produces oil wants to produce more oil. A preference would be to produce virgin plastics rather than recycled plastics.
How does your industry get past that, because you are in the business of making plastic but you are also integrated with the oil production sector?