I have a statement to make. I live in a rural area. Some of the people who live in the area I represent I've known for a long time, and they would be referred to as Amish or Mennonite people. If they were at this committee today, they'd be blown away. They'd ask what this big problem is. Basically, we live in a throwaway society today, where everything is bought and sold and thrown away, and these people don't know what that's about. I know that you guys are making the best of what you can do with it, but the only people we can look at in the mirror is ourselves in terms of what's going on.
I grew up in the auction business. We did a lot of business with people who grew up through the Depression. They didn't throw anything out. They didn't waste anything. Everything they bought was solid wood, or it was a real shovel, a real axe or a real axe-handle.
Today, it's a throwaway society and, really, we can ask you guys to split the atom 10 times but until we take care of our own behaviour, we're our own problem. I'll take you around and show you all the Mennonite people. They don't have a recycling problem. They don't have a plastics problem. They don't have even a problem with changing the oil on their car, because they don't have one. They have steel and wood, and they get along in their lives just fine—and I don't think they're on the Internet either.