Thank you, Madam Chair.
I appreciate all the witnesses today. There are varied opinions and information. It's really good.
I think one of the things that came up from the Canadian Cattlemen's Association, which John mentioned, is the holistic report.
John, you mentioned the sage grouse and the swift fox. A few years ago they said, “Let's put the swift fox back in here”, and the ranchers in the area knew, “Yup, you know what's for breakfast—sage grouse.” Then along come the protected species authorities to protect the sage grouse. That's the isolation piece.
You talked about wetlands. When they were worried about the leopard frog disappearing, they were fencing off wetlands so that the cattle couldn't use them. The ranchers said, “The buffalo stir up the mud. What are you guys doing? We were doing the same with the cattle.”
They fenced off those wetlands and the leopard frogs were gone, because the cattle were doing the same thing as the buffalo.
Your concept of a holistic view, I think, is really good. Is there anything more you'd like to say about that?