Right.
I have a broader question. I'll ask Mr. Bates to start with his answers, and the rest of you can jump in.
Over the course of this study on conservation, we've heard a range of testimony on the degree to which Canadians should be able to use parkland, whether it's protected areas or national parks. CPAWS was in here giving testimony, and the general direction of their comments was that interaction between humans and the parks and protected areas themselves should be limited as much as possible.
I also noted that the minister's mandate letter highlights two things: one is to protect areas and the other is to significantly increase the interaction of Canadians with nature within our parks and our protected areas. There's a natural tension there between the use of these facilities by Canadians and the imperative to protect those areas to ensure biodiversity is maintained and that the activities we undertake within those areas do not in any way measurably degrade our environment.
Mr. Bates, how do you reconcile those two? You speak for a broad range of users of our parks, including the anglers and hunters.