Ms. Scott, I want to get to this mandatory substitution piece. The reason I'm curious is that, through my small experience on the phthalates issue, when trying to get a certain chemical out of products—it was a softener—I found that industries stood at the table and said that doing so would kill Canadians because there would be no surgical tubing available in Canada. They said it would ruin the industry because the substitutions were so outrageously expensive that it would kill the chemicals industry. I'm paraphrasing. Thankfully we also had a nurse in from California where they had banned phthalates 10 years prior, and apparently you can still get surgery in California—quite a bit.
On the mandatory substitution side, we've heard from industry. We're going to hear it say again that it's too onerous. Industry would say that what we've just suggested is very anti-competitive and bad for the economy, if we're running around looking for substitutes, some of which may be worse than the thing we're trying to ban. How do we fix that and address that cry?