Madam Chair, what we heard out there was a lot more blunt than that: You may show up, but you do not listen and you had nobody there that could make any decisions. We heard that very bluntly. That was their side.
Going back, quality and quantity are important things to hear about when we talk about this. It's all right to sort of claim half the country, but if there's no quality in what you're claiming.... I think that was important as well.
I'll ride another horse that I've often mentioned, and that's municipalities. I think municipalities have quality in their protected areas. However, they never get included and you don't talk to them.
You mentioned that you're going to include them on that committee. That's great. I'm glad to see it. There are a lot of protected areas within municipalities that aren't accounted for, and I appreciate that.
I'll go back to capacity. I was listening very carefully to the question that was asked. I'm sitting here, and we have four guys, four departments sitting here—