I think we heard in different situations the need for people who can actually make decisions to be there. If you're working together, and there are targets, but I think we still have a huge issue with silos. We don't have people at the senior level, and I'm talking deputy ministers, who are willing to say, “Let's get it done. We will take this decision. We will make sure it happens.” I think I'm still listening to siloed departments at a different level. I didn't hear anything when that question was asked that said, “We have the backing to get this done at the most senior level.” I mean deputy ministers saying, “Minister, we have to get this done.”
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