I would like to reflect on something that I think Steven Nitah said in testimony, and that was on the importance of working with indigenous groups and recognizing the need for support and capacity in order for communities to participate in protected area establishment.
Finally, I think it takes time, and I don't know if there's any way of getting around the fact that to build a trusting relationship takes time. I think we all have to turn our minds to how we can build better relationships and make that time shorter.