The issue is not just picking out hectares of water or hectares of land. We must remember that we are looking at unique ecosystems, biodiversity, and habitats. That is what we are trying to protect, not just a land mass. That is the key. Otherwise, you could pick a lake. You could pick all kinds of things. We are looking for unique, special habitats with unique species and so forth. That is the challenge.
What we have, though, is a problem where even DFO—and I would probably hazard Environment Canada—has not yet designed the guidelines for practitioners to operate under—the scientists, the biologists, and so forth. We are totally lacking information. This is a massive country.
It's not to chase down and get 17%. That's useless. That doesn't meet the targets internationally, and it doesn't meet the goals we have established for ourselves and internationally. That is what we are trying to protect.
As for the land masses the aboriginal communities have, the traditional territories they have talked about, yes, there are a lot of unique features there, but again, the crown has to work with the indigenous peoples of our country, and there isn't any evidence of that happening.
I would say we have a failure of governments themselves to come to grips with this issue of protecting unique ecosystems, habitats, and the biodiversity of this country. We are not doing that.