Well, I don't think you can characterize it with a description. When I told the story, it was about a level of frustration within the industry, and they've reached a point, whether it's their drivers, whether it's their customers, or whether it's a combination of both.... I don't think you can characterize it by saying certain types of individuals would motivate themselves towards the defeat devices. I do want to say that I don't make excuses for this. They're breaking the law. It's the background for why this is happening.
On November 29th, 2016. See this statement in context.