Actually this is very interesting, because I don't think it's quite as severe as it may have come across.
It is true that in 2008 we had issues in the order of a 29% rate of attrition for our engineers. However, the private sector found the same thing. We have taken some very specific and very aggressive measures, and the attrition rates are now in the order of 5%, which is kind of across the board.
What's interesting is that a recent study by Hays, who are a specialist recruitment firm in Canada, found that a third of the companies were saying they are facing the same recruitment challenges even in an environment like this one, where layoffs are occurring.
You talk about culture. I want to point out that, for seven years in a row, we have been named one of the top 100 employers in Canada, so I think there are some things we're—