That's great. Thanks for those insights.
I want to turn to BOMA. You see how quickly the time goes.
The thing is, as I was listening to you, I was thinking yes, the energy gains we can make through operations are huge. I reflect on the number of buildings I've been to that have installed programmable thermostats that have never been programmed or, as you said, operators that change. Is there any way of quantifying the level of savings we can make by operating more greenly? As we're making these investments, we can green buildings, but if we're not following through....
I've heard landlords say that they have invested so many thousands of dollars into a green system, but they haven't saved any money. You see the windows open in the wintertime or thermostats that haven't been programmed. How do we actually quantify the investments and what we can save through operation?
Just to let you know where I'm going with that, you said there may incentives, federally or from other levels of government, in training and those types of things. Where is the return? What can we actually achieve through better operations?