Can I add to that? I support the idea that a renovation code would be a big driver in this particular area. One of our views has been that certainly the emphasis should be on retrofit to a large extent because the opportunity is so enormous. A code would be very helpful, but we think incentives can help drive that business.
Another organization, of which I'm the chair, is the Canadian Energy Efficiency Alliance. They did a study a couple of years ago that said Canadians want to do more and they want to start at home. They want to do more in their homes, but they don't know where to start.
We believe that providing good science-based information would be a very good start and that coming from the federal government could be very powerful. Related to that, there are programs for labelling of homes, or relabelling. The tools exist now. The federal government has the EnerGuide rating system for homes that hasn't really been deployed to its full potential across the country.
Our feeling is that homeowners, if they're given proper information, will make these investments in their homes either for a return on the investment or just because they believe it's the right thing to do. The evidence shows that Canadians think it's the right thing to do, so that would be a major driver for activity.