From the ICCT perspective, we believe that mobilizing these penalty funds to move towards electric drive is a best-case scenario. Certainly for electric vehicles of all types, both light and heavy-duty, there's going to need to be a lot of policy support and a lot of sustained long-term funding in order to jump-start this transition.
It really is, at least from our perspective, a win-win. You certainly want to penalize malfeasance and cheating. That's pivotal as a deterrent. However, being able to put those funds towards something that is really critical in terms of protecting the climate is a really big lost opportunity for Canada, in our minds.
One of the things we've been looking at quite a bit over the past two years is Canada's role in the electric vehicle transition. It's falling behind some of the other auto-producing countries—at least currently. Canada needs to be doing all it can to make up some lost ground in terms of auto-producing, and particularly electric vehicle production. We think that—