I absolutely think that the fine was not proportional to the scale of this crime. As I mentioned, this is one of the worst environmental crimes in the history of Canada. If we want to just compare it proportionally to the U.S., we had 128,000 affected vehicles that were rigged, sold, and imported here. That was about a fifth of the number of vehicles that were affected in the U.S. Even though the U.S. has 10 times the number of our population, in terms of the VW cars that were impacted, they were five times higher than us. Then, if you look at the fines that they levied, they were much higher and greater in proportion than what we did here.
One thing I wanted to share—I'm going to look at my notes here because there are some numbers that I jotted down—is the way that the charges were packaged was, I think, really troubling because, for example, 10,269 2011 Volkswagen Jettas, the importation of all of those cars were packaged under one offence. That basically limits the number or the amount of fine that could be levied for that specific charge. I think that was troubling for us to see.