Thank you again to our witnesses.
Madam Gagnon-Rocque, we heard a member of the Liberal caucus—I don't mean to make anything personal—suggest that perhaps we should have a regime legislatively that should force these fines to go to specific ends rather than letting the court, the relevant jurisdiction, decide whether or not that's appropriate and whether or not the Crown should decide to pursue that.
I think the real issue here, and I hope you would agree, is whether or not the fine was sufficient. Even with the changes legislatively that said these monies will go to some environmental action, the penalties, you're saying, it seems to me, were not sufficient. Is that correct?