It all hinges on the power that you want to give—and the protected power you want to give—to these people who protect the environment. At the moment, they don't have that power. It's really clear.
To meet climate objectives, Canadians have to invest tens of billions of dollars each year for the next 30 years. This is public and private investment. It's a huge challenge; it's a huge opportunity. It has to come with a governance that makes sense, given the challenge that is in front of us.