Thank you for that.
The last question is about the balance between recycling as a strategy for reducing plastic waste and something like banning plastics using CEPA. I understand that if we want to achieve zero waste, we have to reduce plastic waste by 3.3 million tonnes. Even under the best-case scenarios, if we project forward, recycling is only going to get us about 45% of the way there.
Do you feel that recycling and banning plastic products are complementary strategies for reducing plastic waste?