I think we need EPR, but we also need, combined with EPR, the deposit system where people get money back. That is huge. You get good-quality plastics and you get lots of it.
I was in your place for different commissions for Montreal, and usually the industry is against it. The producers say, “No, no, no, the deposit system is no good. Just put it in recycling,” but I think, as does the whole zero waste council, it should be a combination of curbside and the deposit system, which is very, very good. If you have a price tag on it, or if you buy something that you know is....
Anyway, I won't go into that. Eco-fees is too much of an issue. I hope we have a nationwide EPR system that is at least as good as B.C.'s or better. Let's not downscale ourselves.