Evidence of meeting #3 for Environment and Sustainable Development in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was question.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Megan Nichols  Director General, Environmental Policy, Department of Transport
Helen Ryan  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Paula Vieira  Executive Director, Fuel Diversification Division, Clean Fuels Branch, Department of Natural Resources
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Sharon Irwin  Senior Director, Industry Sector, Automotive, Transportation and Digital Technology Branch, Department of Industry
Marc D'Iorio  Director General, Energy and Transportation, Department of the Environment

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Director General, Energy and Transportation, Department of the Environment

Marc D'Iorio

Yes, once there are no more gasoline-powered vehicles on the road.

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Great. That's clear.

Am I to understand that all charging stations being installed across Canada right now are for electric vehicles? Are some for vehicles powered by other fuel sources—ones that are more or less clean—like hydrogen? Are they all EV charging stations, or are there other types?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Who do you want to answer—Ms. Vieira?

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

I think so. Yes.

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Executive Director, Fuel Diversification Division, Clean Fuels Branch, Department of Natural Resources

Paula Vieira

We are incentivizing the installation of electric vehicle chargers, fast chargers, and level 2 chargers as well as hydrogen stations and natural gas stations along key freight corridors.

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Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Natural gas, hydrogen, and electricity are really what we're talking about, but when it comes to passenger vehicles, the major source would be electric charging stations. You seem to mention that hydrogen and natural gas are more useful for freight vehicles. Is that correct?

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Executive Director, Fuel Diversification Division, Clean Fuels Branch, Department of Natural Resources

Paula Vieira

That's correct. For light-duty vehicles it would be predominantly electric vehicle charging, although hydrogen stations are being deployed in metropolitan centres—for example, in Montreal, in Quebec City and in Vancouver—where original vehicle manufacturers are also deploying some hydrogen fleets.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Thank you very much.

I thank you, witnesses, and I repeat the question I asked to all of you who are here: can we make your opening statements public?

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Executive Director, Fuel Diversification Division, Clean Fuels Branch, Department of Natural Resources

Paula Vieira

Natural Resources Canada says yes.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

That's Natural Resources.

Alexandre, are you making a note?

How about Department of the Environment?

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Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment

Helen Ryan

That's fine.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Department of Transport.

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Director General, Environmental Policy, Department of Transport

Megan Nichols

Yes, we have no concerns.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Department of Industry.

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Senior Director, Industry Sector, Automotive, Transportation and Digital Technology Branch, Department of Industry

Sharon Irwin

Yes, Madam Chair.

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A voice

I thought they were open by default.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

I know, but unfortunately we have to ask the question, and so that's that.

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NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

Madam Chair, on a point of order.

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Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Madam Chair, I have a point of order as well.

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NDP

Laurel Collins NDP Victoria, BC

It's just a quick question. I was in transit while that was happening. Were there two rounds that went by? Did we not pass a motion whereby the Bloc and the NDP were supposed to get their turns in between the Conservative and Liberal second rounds? Is that not correct?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

Actually, I print only what the clerk gives me, and that printing says that in the first and second rounds, you got your two and a half minutes, and in the third round you were supposed to get your two and a half minutes, but we extended the time, and I had to clarify. You won't be able to ask the question, because the interpreters say they would not be able to translate if you are not—

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Conservative

Dan Albas Conservative Central Okanagan—Similkameen—Nicola, BC

Can we try for five minutes? Maybe let her—

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Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Yes, but I'm not using a phone.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Yasmin Ratansi

I don't mind, as long as....but the interpreters say they cannot interpret from the phone.

I'll give Madame Pauzé two and a half minutes, and Madame Collins, if nobody complains about not having translation, I'll give it to you as well.

Madame Pauzé.

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Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair. I had turned on my microphone for the same reason.

My questions are for you, Mrs. Irwin. I'd like to know whether the automobile industry has to meet any specific conditions to access funding under the strategic innovation fund.