Yes. I think there should be consultation, definitely, but also engagement and communication. That can be a two-way street and it should be a two-way street.
Some of my thoughts on that have to do with looking at how people behave and looking at societal trends and societal changes. I know these are things government and business already do, but a lot of data that can be gained from those domains can then feed into our scenarios. There have been a few examples of unpredictable outcomes of how people might respond to interventions.
There's a bit of that in COVID. For the most part, I think, in terms of what the pandemic showed us, I was actually quite surprised at how quickly people responded to the required interventions that had to be taken and the changes in their lifestyles and behaviour. The same—