This is what I'm going to check on, and I'll get right back to you. This is going to be slow moving for a while, until we hit our stride.
Ms. Thivierge confirms my understanding, which is that if you're challenging the ruling, we will go straight to a vote. There's no debate. Mr. Redekopp can speak later about something else if he wishes to, but there's no debate around your challenge.
We'll go to a vote.