I'll take this one.
One thing I'd like to clarify is that we only account for direct GHG reductions that are going to materialize by 2030. For that to happen, you need a fairly mature technology. You need a large emitter or an adopter in order to have an accurate number. Those are the ones that we report.
Other projects under the NZA have a longer-term impact. These ones clearly don't have a specific number. You can guess, but you can't get to something accurate, so it's apples and oranges, really.