My concern is that in this conversation we quite often dive into details and weeds that don't make sense to Canadians. In 1990, our greenhouse gas emissions were 608 megatonnes, bringing it back up to easy levels for people to compare, and in 2022 they were up to 708 megatonnes, whereas virtually every one of our partners that signed the Kyoto Protocol, particularly the European Union, as an example, were far below their 1990 levels. We're one of the only countries that remained above 1990 levels.
Based on anything one can find in the literature, building additional fossil fuel infrastructure will increase emissions. The International Energy Agency says so. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says so. Putting public money into building the Trans Mountain expansion—this is the point about the U.S. Department of State analysis—particularly when the price of West Texas Intermediate is low, will actually increase emissions.