Environment Committee on June 18th, 2024

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Is it a real point of order?

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

Is Adam planning on shutting down debate?

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

It's “Mr. van Koeverden” to you. Thanks.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

What's the point of order?

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

Does Mr. van Koeverden intend to shut down debate?

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Well, he'll say when he wants to, I guess.

Go ahead, Mr. van Koeverden.

[Branden Leslie, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

[Inaudible—Editor]

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

What report?

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

You just mentioned it.

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

Sure, I would absolutely love to table the report from 300 Canadian economists on carbon pricing.

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Order.

Mr. van Koeverden has the floor.

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

As I said, Mr. Giroux, the Parliamentary Budget Officer, clarified that after being badgered at committee and speaking in his second language, he had made a mistake. He made an error that he reclarified on Monday. Yet, the Conservatives are using the previous error. They're basically saying that Monday didn't happen.

Mr. Chair, it's unbecoming of any member of Parliament to badger a witness or to misrepresent a public servant. For that reason, and out of respect for our witnesses, I would ask that we adjourn debate on this frivolous motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

We'll go to a vote.

(Motion agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Yes.

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

As requested, I'd like to table the report where the PBO said he is not being muzzled by the Liberal government, despite the fact that Conservative MPs badgered him at committee.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

What did you want to table?

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

It's a news article in which the PBO reclarifies his position on the economic impact of the—

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

You can send that to the committee, Mr. van Koeverden.

Mr. Mazier.

[Dan Mazier, Conservative, Dauphin—Swan River—Neepawa, MB]

Chair, I have a point of clarification.

What is he actually sending to committee? Is it a news article, or is it an actual report done by the PBO?

[The Chair, Liberal, Francis Scarpaleggia]

I'm clarifying that with Mr. van Koeverden right now.

Mr. van Koeverden, if you wish to send this article to the committee, we'll have it translated and distributed.

Is that what you'd like to do?

[Adam van Koeverden, Liberal, Milton, ON]

I'm happy to.

I'm responding to a request by Mr. Leslie. I can send Canada's Ecofiscal Commission's report by 300 economists indicating that carbon pricing is effective and is not contributing to inflation.