Yes. That's why I would say that this committee and others, and the debate generally, should rise above the word game and the wordsmithing issue. We should go to what the nature of the measure is and whether it will help or hinder achieving the objectives of the climate plan and the journey to net zero, and not get too worried about terminology.
I know it's important because of the Pittsburgh 2009 commitment to eliminate inefficient fossil fuel subsidies with the G20, but we're past that now. We have to look at all of the measures, whether they're subsidies or not, to see whether they're helping or hindering.