Before I move to the next witness, the Trottier energy institute, I'd like to ask you a final follow-up question.
We need to be working with the oil and gas industry, because clearly they're creating emissions and they're trying to get to net zero themselves. If we're not investing in that industry, if we're not helping them get to net zero, then we're losing the biggest opportunity we have for reducing emissions.
We need to be working together to reduce emissions in a key emissions sector. You're not suggesting that we work apart from the fossil fuel sector but in conjunction with them. Is that what I'm hearing?